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#18—April Rinne: Navigating Continual Change with the Flux Mindset

#18—April Rinne: Navigating Continual Change with the Flux Mindset

April Rinne is a “change navigator,” speaker, investor, and adventurer whose work and travels in more than 100 countries have given her a front-row seat to a world in flux. She is one of the 50 leading female futurists in the world, a Harvard Law School graduate, a Young Global Leader at the World Economic Forum, and a Fulbright Scholar. She is also a trusted advisor to well-known startups and companies, financial institutions, nonprofits, think tanks, and governments worldwide.

Earlier in life she was a global development executive, an international microfinance lawyer, and a hiking guide. She spent nearly four years traveling solo (with a backpack and a shoestring budget) to better understand how to help shape a more inclusive, equitable world.

From her varied and vast experiences, she developed her concept of Flux—how to adopt a mindset that thrives in our world's pace of constant change. In this episode, she'll share with us the eight mental shifts you need to make to thrive in a state of constant change, and why you should not try to run fast, but instead run slower.


"The flux mindset, you just nailed it, because one of the ways I'll define it is: It is the state of mind or the ability to see every change whether it's good or bad, loved or hated, unwelcomed or unexpected as an opportunity, as a means of growing and improving even the hard stuff, it’s not a threat but to be able to harness those silver linings."

-April Rinne


Episode Timeline:

00:00—Introducing April + The topic of today’s episode

1:48—If you really know me, you know that...

2:15—What is your definition of strategy?

2:53—What got you interested in strategy?

3:47—Could you describe the flux mindset?

5:00—Why does a strategist need to get their head around to build their awareness about a flux mindset?

5:48— Can an organization or a sector or community also have a mindset?

7:09—What's the right perspective to approach flux from?

9:18—Could you explain the concept of slowing down, even if the world is accelerating?

11:14—What are some of the other eight superpowers that we should be mindful of?

13:30—Could you tell us more about the superpower of scenario planning?

15:10—What do people usually get wrong?

16:52—What's some advice or something you wish you had learned earlier?

19:28—Where can people find you and connect with you and learn from you?


Additional Resources:

Flux website:

Personal website:


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The Outthinkers podcast is a growth strategy podcast hosted by Kaihan Krippendorff. Each week, Kaihan talks with forward-looking strategists and innovators that are challenging the status quo, leading the future of business, and shaping our world.